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		<title>By: Upcoming Open Source Webinars: DotNetNuke, HP, SugarCRM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Upcoming Open Source Webinars: DotNetNuke, HP, SugarCRM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 16:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Pitfalls to Avoid When Choosing an Open Source Web Content Management System - Shaun Walker, DotNetNuke co-founder, will share real-world examples of how open source CMSs are being used to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dimitris Alifragis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dimitris Alifragis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 18:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The community version still has everything needed. And more. Lately a lot of (neglected a little bit in the past) modules are revamped, like the forums and the gallery. 

As previously said, the same path follows Umbraco and others. I still don&#039;t see anything wrong. 

The community version has still a huge ammount of installations and we are all happy to give feedback and help to get DNN better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The community version still has everything needed. And more. Lately a lot of (neglected a little bit in the past) modules are revamped, like the forums and the gallery. </p>
<p>As previously said, the same path follows Umbraco and others. I still don&#8217;t see anything wrong. </p>
<p>The community version has still a huge ammount of installations and we are all happy to give feedback and help to get DNN better.</p>
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		<title>By: Uttam Rawat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uttam Rawat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have 50% knowledge of DNN framework but want to get more..</description>
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		<title>By: uttam</title>
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		<dc:creator>uttam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really impressed with DNN Product , i appreciate to all DNN Team, my focus is now i am working only on Dotnetnuke Framework</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really impressed with DNN Product , i appreciate to all DNN Team, my focus is now i am working only on Dotnetnuke Framework</p>
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		<title>By: AC</title>
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		<dc:creator>AC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 16:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By making a Pro version that has support it opens up DNN to large companies that won&#039;t use unsupported applications.  That in turn creates more users and more opportunities for DNN developers.  Aetna was considering creating a 10+ developer team project in 2009 after DNN was supported.  I do not think they would have considered that if it was a traditional open source application.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By making a Pro version that has support it opens up DNN to large companies that won&#8217;t use unsupported applications.  That in turn creates more users and more opportunities for DNN developers.  Aetna was considering creating a 10+ developer team project in 2009 after DNN was supported.  I do not think they would have considered that if it was a traditional open source application.</p>
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		<title>By: Eastwick Communications Client Coverage &#187; Interview with Shaun Walker – DotNetNuke Co-Founder</title>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 02:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As coummunity user, I look forward to the developed changes required to the pro version that will be placed in the core of Dotnetnuke (The Community and Profession version are based on the same core). For example, the DNN corp. has made a deal with Telerik and will now include Telerik Rad Controls library for free. So, this is a true two street. As one relies on DotNetNuke, I am not concerned and believe this is one way the open source can work.  It does for me and many many others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As coummunity user, I look forward to the developed changes required to the pro version that will be placed in the core of Dotnetnuke (The Community and Profession version are based on the same core). For example, the DNN corp. has made a deal with Telerik and will now include Telerik Rad Controls library for free. So, this is a true two street. As one relies on DotNetNuke, I am not concerned and believe this is one way the open source can work.  It does for me and many many others.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 20:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DotNetNuke has become ridiculous.  They have basically peed on their community to make a buck.  Their community provided much of the work that has gone into making DNN a viable product.  Since it&#039;s open source, maybe some adventurous soul will fork the project off into a new, truly open source direction.  That would be good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DotNetNuke has become ridiculous.  They have basically peed on their community to make a buck.  Their community provided much of the work that has gone into making DNN a viable product.  Since it&#8217;s open source, maybe some adventurous soul will fork the project off into a new, truly open source direction.  That would be good.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Brinkman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Brinkman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone is entitled to their opinion, just like the DotNetNuke founders are entitled to ours.  At the end of the day we have to choose the path that works for us and our community.  Those 6000+ products on Snowcovered all have monetized an open source project.  They built extensions to the platform and sell them, hopefully at a profit.  DotNetNuke Corp does exactly the same thing with DNN Pro.  This is no different than what Acquia does with Drupal or Umbraaco or MySql or hundreds of Commercial Open Source companies.

As for documentation, we charge a small fee for documentation provided as a pdf.  Originally that documentation was written and sold by a third party not associated with DNN Corp.  We had licensed the documentation and provided an online HTML version which was hosted on DotNetNuke.com.  We still do that today.  Since getting our original funding, we continue to provide the free access to the HTML version and provide a pdf version for a small fee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone is entitled to their opinion, just like the DotNetNuke founders are entitled to ours.  At the end of the day we have to choose the path that works for us and our community.  Those 6000+ products on Snowcovered all have monetized an open source project.  They built extensions to the platform and sell them, hopefully at a profit.  DotNetNuke Corp does exactly the same thing with DNN Pro.  This is no different than what Acquia does with Drupal or Umbraaco or MySql or hundreds of Commercial Open Source companies.</p>
<p>As for documentation, we charge a small fee for documentation provided as a pdf.  Originally that documentation was written and sold by a third party not associated with DNN Corp.  We had licensed the documentation and provided an online HTML version which was hosted on DotNetNuke.com.  We still do that today.  Since getting our original funding, we continue to provide the free access to the HTML version and provide a pdf version for a small fee.</p>
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		<title>By: Rod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, charging for documentation is absolutely ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, charging for documentation is absolutely ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rahul, I totally agree with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rahul, I totally agree with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Rahul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rahul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 06:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been thoroughly disappointed by the way DotNetNuke has taken a commercial approach. They now publish a DNN Community and DNN Pro edition, with the Pro edition being a paid software.

Now take a look at the open source CMSes out there (Drupal, Joomla, WordPress etc). Open source really means you are not charging a penny for the Software, but revenues come from providing support, services and customization. What DNN has done, it has gotten the community to test, provide feedback, and submit bugs for the DNN (supposedly open source) software. And then the project owners release a Pro version built on top of the Community version, for which they charge users. They charge for documentation, and what not.

Probably this has its roots is the very technologies DNN is based upon, that are inherently proprietary. I am not against MS or any of its technologies, I do use and develop around them very extensively.

What I am against is the turn DNN has taken. They have gotten community to get DNN where it has been today, and then released Pro versions of it. Don&#039;t forget many of DNN features today were independent add-on open source modules earlier which were integrated into core.

Really, if DNN truly wants to be open-source, they should scrap the DNN Pro edition, and strop charging for things like documentation. The DNN core team can off-course provide support and consulting to their corporate customers, but they should really stop selling what has been a community driven and enhanced product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been thoroughly disappointed by the way DotNetNuke has taken a commercial approach. They now publish a DNN Community and DNN Pro edition, with the Pro edition being a paid software.</p>
<p>Now take a look at the open source CMSes out there (Drupal, Joomla, WordPress etc). Open source really means you are not charging a penny for the Software, but revenues come from providing support, services and customization. What DNN has done, it has gotten the community to test, provide feedback, and submit bugs for the DNN (supposedly open source) software. And then the project owners release a Pro version built on top of the Community version, for which they charge users. They charge for documentation, and what not.</p>
<p>Probably this has its roots is the very technologies DNN is based upon, that are inherently proprietary. I am not against MS or any of its technologies, I do use and develop around them very extensively.</p>
<p>What I am against is the turn DNN has taken. They have gotten community to get DNN where it has been today, and then released Pro versions of it. Don&#8217;t forget many of DNN features today were independent add-on open source modules earlier which were integrated into core.</p>
<p>Really, if DNN truly wants to be open-source, they should scrap the DNN Pro edition, and strop charging for things like documentation. The DNN core team can off-course provide support and consulting to their corporate customers, but they should really stop selling what has been a community driven and enhanced product.</p>
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